Legislature(2021 - 2022)ADAMS 519

04/14/2022 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Recessed to 10 Minutes Following Session --
+= HB 265 HEALTH CARE SERVICES BY TELEHEALTH TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 265(FIN) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+ HB 409 APPROVE PETRO STAR INC. ROYALTY OIL SALE TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
-- Public Testimony --
+ HB 410 APPROVE MARATHON PETRO ROYALTY OIL SALE TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+ SB 239 APPROVE PETRO STAR INC. ROYALTY OIL SALE TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 239 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
<Companion Bill to HB 409>
+ SB 240 APPROVE MARATHON PETRO ROYALTY OIL SALE TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 240 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
<Companion Bill to HB 410>
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                      April 14, 2022                                                                                            
                         1:33 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:33:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick called the  House Finance Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 1:33 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Kelly Merrick, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Dan Ortiz, Vice-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Bart LeBon                                                                                                       
Representative Sara Rasmussen (via teleconference)                                                                              
Representative Adam Wool                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Jhonny Meza,  Commercial Analyst,  Division of Oil  and Gas,                                                                    
Department   of   Natural  Resources;   Representative   Ivy                                                                    
Spohnholz, Sponsor.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
John  Crowther, Deputy  Commissioner, Department  of Natural                                                                    
Resources;  Doug  Chapados,  ASRC,  Petro  Star,  Anchorage;                                                                    
Casey   Sullivan,  Marathon   Petroleum,  Anchorage;   Lance                                                                    
Johnson,  Norton  Sound  Health, Nome;  Winn  Davis,  Senior                                                                    
Policy  Analyst,  Alaska  Native  Health  Board,  Anchorage;                                                                    
Emily   Nenon,  American   Cancer  Society,   Cancer  Action                                                                    
Network,  Anchorage; Sara  Chambers,  Director, Division  of                                                                    
Corporations,    Business   and    Professional   Licensing,                                                                    
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 265    HEALTH CARE SERVICES BY TELEHEALTH                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          CSHB 265(FIN)  was REPORTED out of  committee with                                                                    
          six   "do  pass"   recommendations  and   two  "no                                                                    
          recommendation" recommendations  and with  one new                                                                    
          zero fiscal note by Department  of Health, one new                                                                    
          fiscal impact note by  the Department of Commerce,                                                                    
          Community  and Economic  Development, and  two new                                                                    
          fiscal impact notes by the Department of Health.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SB 239    APPROVE PETRO STAR INC. ROYALTY OIL SALE                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          SB  239 was  REPORTED out  of committee  with nine                                                                    
          "do pass" recommendations and  with one new fiscal                                                                    
          impact   note  by   the   Department  of   Natural                                                                    
          Resources.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SB 240    APPROVE MARATHON PETRO ROYALTY OIL SALE                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          SB  240 was  REPORTED out  of committee  with nine                                                                    
          "do pass" recommendations and  with one new fiscal                                                                    
          impact   note  by   the   Department  of   Natural                                                                    
          Resources.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick reviewed the agenda for the meeting.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 239                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act approving and ratifying the sale of royalty                                                                        
     oil by the State of Alaska to Petro Star Inc.; and                                                                         
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 240                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act approving  and ratifying  the sale  of royalty                                                                    
     oil  by  the  State  of Alaska  to  Marathon  Petroleum                                                                    
     Supply and  Trading Company LLC;  and providing  for an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:33:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JHONNY MEZA,  COMMERCIAL ANALYST,  DIVISION OF OIL  AND GAS,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT OF  NATURAL RESOURCES, introduced  the PowerPoint                                                                    
presentation: "The Process  for the Sale of  ANS Royalty Oil                                                                    
In-Kind and the Proposed  Contracts with Marathon  and Petro                                                                  
Star    SB 239 AND  SB 240."  He indicated the  beginning of                                                                    
the presentation would be provided by Mr. John Crowther.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:34:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  CROWTHER, DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF NATURAL                                                                    
RESOURCES (via teleconference),  emphasized that the royalty                                                                    
oil  in-kind sales  had  been an  important  element in  the                                                                    
state's  use and  development of  natural resources.  It had                                                                    
also  been  an important  part  in  supporting the  in-state                                                                    
refining capacity,  which benefited consumers  through fuel,                                                                    
supply,  and  security,  and   also  benefited  the  broader                                                                    
economy.  It had  also provided  additional  value over  and                                                                    
above the  general royalty  and value  sales. He  began with                                                                    
slide  2  of  the  presentation which  stated  that  it  was                                                                    
critical that  the proposed contracts  be executed  by April                                                                    
22, 2022. The slide showed a  summary of the steps needed in                                                                    
order to effectuate  the contract and an  explanation of why                                                                    
the   Department  of   Natural  Resources   (DNR)  and   the                                                                    
administration was seeking an expedited review.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:36:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Meza  turned to slide  4 of the presentation  and shared                                                                    
that he  would be reviewing  some of the contract  terms for                                                                    
the companies  Marathon and Petro  Star. The slide  showed a                                                                    
table reflecting the  recent history of the  royalty oil in-                                                                    
kind  contracts. He  explained that  the state  had received                                                                    
royalty oil from the North  Slope both in-kind and in-value.                                                                    
When  selling royalty  oil in-value,  the  state received  a                                                                    
share of  the proceeds from  the producers according  to its                                                                    
royalty rate  in the oil  and gas contracts. When  the state                                                                    
elected to receive its royalty  oil in-kind, the majority of                                                                    
the oil  produced would come  from in-state  refineries. The                                                                    
state  had  a  history  of  entering  into  royalty  in-kind                                                                    
contracts from  the beginning  of production  of oil  in the                                                                    
North Slope.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Meza explained  that the  contracts  with Marathon  and                                                                    
Petro Star were highlighted on  the slide. The fourth column                                                                    
on the slide showed the way  in which the department and the                                                                    
buyers  agreed  to  value   the  royalty  oil,  specifically                                                                    
following  the netback  methodology. He  explained that  DNR                                                                    
sold its royalty  oil at the field; therefore,  the price of                                                                    
royalty oil  was calculated by  "netting back" the  price of                                                                    
Alaska North Slope  (ANS) oil at the U.S. West  Coast to the                                                                    
field.  The netback  methodology  was  essentially the  same                                                                    
process as  in-value pricing, with the  exception of royalty                                                                    
in-kind  differential. This  was a  negotiated term  between                                                                    
the department and the in-state  refineries. The last column                                                                    
showed the  values of the  negotiated terms and  the royalty                                                                    
in-kind   differential  throughout   the   history  of   the                                                                    
contracts.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson asked if it  was better for the state                                                                    
to receive oil in-kind or in-value.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Meza replied that when  the state entered into a royalty                                                                    
in-kind  contract,  regulations  required the  price  be  at                                                                    
least as high as the in-value  price. From 2008 to 2021, the                                                                    
department obtained  an average premium of  $0.93 per barrel                                                                    
in addition to a royalty in-value oil.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson asked  whether the difference between                                                                    
royalty in-kind  and royalty in-value  related to  the chain                                                                    
of events that happened throughout the selling process.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Meza  responded that there  was a process  for selecting                                                                    
royalty in-kind  and that generating a  premium over royalty                                                                    
in-value was one of the requirements.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool  asked   whether  royalty  in-kind  was                                                                    
another deduction in the price  that would be offered to the                                                                    
state. He  understood it  to represent  the normal  price of                                                                    
oil plus another deduction.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Meza responded  that Representative  Wool was  correct.                                                                    
The royalty in-kind was another  deduction in the price, but                                                                    
even  so, a  premium was  still generated  over royalty  in-                                                                    
value.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:41:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Meza moved  to slide 5 and explained that  the slide was                                                                    
a  visual  representation  of the  differences  between  the                                                                    
determination of the  price of royalty in-value  oil and the                                                                    
price of royalty in-kind oil.  The processes were similar in                                                                    
that  the  netback  methodology  was  applied  to  both.  He                                                                    
indicated  that when  the state  elected to  receive royalty                                                                    
ANS oil in-value, producers typically sold  that oil outside                                                                  
of Alaska.  When the  state elected  to receive  royalty ANS                                                                    
oil  in-kind, it typically  sold the  oil inside  of Alaska.                                                                  
There were some deductions  related to the transportation of                                                                    
royalty  in-value oil,  such  as  the marine  transportation                                                                    
costs. The  royalty in-kind oil did  not have transportation                                                                    
cost    deductions;   therefore,    the   royalty    in-kind                                                                    
differential   was  employed.   The   department  used   the                                                                    
deductions   and  the   royalty   in-kind  differential   to                                                                    
determine the oil premium.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Meza continued  to slide 6 which  showed some historical                                                                    
information related  to the previous  graph on slide  5. The                                                                    
graph on slide 6 showed  the historical value of the royalty                                                                    
in-kind  differential and  the marine  transportation costs.                                                                    
He explained that the blue  line showed the weighted average                                                                    
marine transportation  allowance, the green line  showed DNR                                                                    
location  differential,   and  the  grey  line   showed  the                                                                    
weighted   average   royalty    in-kind   differential.   He                                                                    
elaborated  that the  difference between  the blue  and grey                                                                    
lines  was the  source of  the premium  that the  department                                                                    
obtained  by   entering  into  royalty   in-kind  contracts.                                                                    
Another  consideration  was  that  the  department  provided                                                                    
supplies  to  the  refineries,  but  it  was  not  the  only                                                                    
supplier. It  was important to consider  whether the royalty                                                                    
oil was competitive as compared to other suppliers.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:45:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon asked Mr.  Meza to address the revenue                                                                    
difference for the state.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Meza jumped  to slide 9 which showed how  much the state                                                                    
had been able  to generate in terms  of additional revenues.                                                                    
The current Marathon contracts  estimated between $3 million                                                                    
and  $4 million  in revenue,  and the  Petro Star  contracts                                                                    
estimated between  $17 million  and $19 million  in revenue.                                                                    
The  revenue estimates  were in  excess of  what would  have                                                                    
been received had  the state elected to  receive 100 percent                                                                    
of the royalty oil in-value.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon suggested that  there was a reason for                                                                    
the  public  process.  He  was a  strong  supporter  of  the                                                                    
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:46:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  asked Mr. Meza  to review the  fiscal note                                                                    
for SB 239 with a control code EPVzv.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Meza  explained  the  fiscal note  from  DNR  aimed  to                                                                    
decompose the values he had  just given for the Marathon and                                                                    
Petro Star  contracts. He relayed  that 74.5 percent  of the                                                                    
revenues  for each  fiscal year  would be  allocated to  the                                                                    
general  fund,   24  percent  would  be   allocated  to  the                                                                    
Permanent Fund, and 0.5 percent to the school fund.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick noted  that there was a typo  in the fiscal                                                                    
note  that   would  be  corrected   before  it   moved  from                                                                    
committee. She  asked Mr.  Meza to  address the  fiscal note                                                                    
for SB 240 with control code gjwMS from DNR.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Meza explained  that the  process was  the same  as the                                                                    
previous fiscal note. The main  differences were the revenue                                                                    
estimates and  the proposed amount of  royalty oil dedicated                                                                    
to Marathon.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:48:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter  noticed a discrepancy on  the back                                                                    
page of the fiscal note.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:48:50 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:55:46 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool asked about  for more information on the                                                                    
difference between the  grey line and the green  line in the                                                                    
prior graphic on slide 6.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Meza  explained that he  was comparing the blue  line on                                                                    
the  top with  the grey  line on  the bottom.  This was  the                                                                    
important  comparison because  regulation dictated  that the                                                                    
royalty  in-kind price  had  to  be at  least  equal to  the                                                                    
royalty  in-value  price.  The royalty  in-value  price  was                                                                    
represented by the blue line.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool had  a question  regarding slide  5. He                                                                    
asked how the oil was transported.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Meza  relayed  that  DNR  was  not  in  charge  of  the                                                                    
transportation  of oil.  The state  transferred the  royalty                                                                    
title at the  field. The purpose of  including the deduction                                                                    
in the  graph on slide  5 was because  the price of  ANS oil                                                                    
began  at  the West  Coast  of  the  United States  and  the                                                                    
royalty oil was sold at the field.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:58:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool understood  that the  oil went  through                                                                    
the pipeline,  then into  a terminal, then  into a  boat. He                                                                    
did not  think the  oil went directly  to Marathon  or Petro                                                                    
Star and wondered where their oil came from.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Meza responded that Representative  Wool was correct. He                                                                    
furthered  that Petro  Star obtained  royalty oil  and other                                                                    
types  of  oil  from   other  producers.  Marathon  obtained                                                                    
royalty oil from Valdez and it was barged to Nikiski.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool thought  it  made  sense that  Marathon                                                                    
picked the  oil up from Valdez  and it was then  sold at the                                                                    
field.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson   understood  that   Marathon  was                                                                    
located in Nikiski and asked where Petro Star was located.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Meza responded  that Petro Star had a  refinery in North                                                                    
Pole and another in Valdez.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick asked  Mr. Meza to review Fiscal  Note 1 by                                                                    
DNR for SB 239.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Meza  explained the  fiscal note  with the  control code                                                                    
ezbNE.  He   indicated  that  the   note  showed   that  the                                                                    
allocation to  the general  fund and  other funds  were done                                                                    
uniformly. He  reminded members that  74.5 percent  would be                                                                    
allocated to the  general fund, 24 percent  to the Permanent                                                                    
Fund, and 0.5 percent to the school fund.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter requested a brief "At ease."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:00:41 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:01:59 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter   asked  about  the   oil  flowing                                                                    
through the  pipeline on slide  5. He wondered if  there was                                                                    
an impact on the property taxation  on the oil when it had a                                                                    
royalty  in-kind  status.  He  wondered  if  there  was  any                                                                    
difference in taxation.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Meza thought there was no difference.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:02:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick OPENED  public  testimony for  SB 239  and                                                                    
SB 240.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DOUG   CHAPADOS,   ASRC,    PETRO   STAR,   ANCHORAGE   (via                                                                    
teleconference), spoke in  favor of SB 239.  He relayed that                                                                    
Petro Star  was the state's only  Alaskan-owned refinery. In                                                                    
addition to  operating a variety of  field terminals located                                                                    
around  the  state, Petro  Star  also  operated two  of  the                                                                    
state's  three commercial  refineries. Both  refineries drew                                                                    
crude   oil  from   the  pipeline.   He  thought   that  the                                                                    
legislation   was  essential   to  Petro   Star's  continued                                                                    
operations. Petro  Star's oil was  used for things  like jet                                                                    
fuel,  heating oil,  and diesel  fuel.  The royalty  in-kind                                                                    
contract   would  maximize   the  revenues   generated  from                                                                    
Alaska's  royalties from  oil. It  would also  help maintain                                                                    
the refining industry in the state.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  thanked the testifier for  calling in.                                                                    
He appreciated the information  about Petro Star's important                                                                    
role in the state.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:06:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon asked  for  more  information on  the                                                                    
Alaskan hire percentages in his district.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Chapados indicated that all  but two of Petro Star's 275                                                                    
employees were Alaska residents.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:06:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CASEY   SULLIVAN,   MARATHON   PETROLEUM,   ANCHORAGE   (via                                                                    
teleconference),  thanked  the  committee  for  hearing  the                                                                    
bill.  He shared  support for  SB 240.  The flexibility  and                                                                    
stability of  the contract would help  Marathon optimize the                                                                    
ongoing  operations   of  the  Kenai  refinery.   The  Kenai                                                                    
refinery was one of  Alaska's longest in-state manufacturers                                                                    
of  fuel and  had been  operating since  1969. The  refinery                                                                    
could produce  up to 68,000  barrels per day. He  noted that                                                                    
much  of  the oil  produced  at  the  refinery was  used  in                                                                    
Alaska, and  all of the  company's employees  were Alaskans.                                                                    
The company was seen as  an economic engine for communities,                                                                    
and it offered  careers, not just jobs. He  added that while                                                                    
much  of  the contract  was  a  renewal,  it was  result  of                                                                    
dialogue and negotiations between  Marathon and the Division                                                                    
of Oil  and Gas.  In conclusion,  Marathon was  committed to                                                                    
safely and reliably creating quality  fuels for Alaskans. He                                                                    
encouraged support for SB 240.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:10:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick CLOSED  public  testimony for  SB 239  and                                                                    
SB 240.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick   noted  that  SB  239   and  SB 240  were                                                                    
companion bills to HB 409 and HB 410.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool   returned  to   slide  9   which  gave                                                                    
information  on  the additional  revenue  to  the state.  He                                                                    
applauded DNR  and the administration  for looking  into all                                                                    
revenue streams, no matter how small.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:11:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster MOVED  to report  SB 239  out of  committee                                                                    
with individual recommendations  and the accompanying fiscal                                                                    
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SB 239  was REPORTED  out of committee  with nine  "do pass"                                                                    
recommendations and with  one new fiscal impact  note by the                                                                    
Department of Natural Resources.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:12:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster MOVED  to report  SB 240  out of  committee                                                                    
with individual recommendations  and the accompanying fiscal                                                                    
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SB 240  was REPORTED  out of committee  with nine  "do pass"                                                                    
recommendations and with  one new fiscal impact  note by the                                                                    
Department of Natural Resources.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:12:40 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:13:58 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  indicated that  the committee  would stand                                                                    
at-ease to the call of the chair.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:14:05 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[RECESSED TO A CALL OF THE CHAIR.]                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:12:42 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  indicated the  committee had heard  the HB
265 previously on March 29,  2022. There were three proposed                                                                    
amendments.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 265                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act  relating  to   telehealth;  relating  to  the                                                                    
     practice  of medicine;  relating to  medical assistance                                                                    
     coverage  for  services  provided  by  telehealth;  and                                                                    
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:12:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  gave the bill  sponsor the  opportunity to                                                                    
make   opening   comments   but   Representative   Spohnholz                                                                    
declined.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick OPENED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:13:44 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:14:10 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
LANCE    JOHNSON,   NORTON    SOUND   HEALTH,    NOME   (via                                                                    
teleconference), spoke in  support of HB 265.  He noted that                                                                    
the  COVID-19 pandemic  highlighted the  positive impact  of                                                                    
telehealth. He  emphasized the importance of  keeping audio-                                                                    
only services  accessible. Some  people preferred  to access                                                                    
treatment  via telephone  because  they could  engage in  an                                                                    
appointment in  an environment of their  choosing. He shared                                                                    
that  many  patients  indicated  they  would  elect  to  not                                                                    
receive care  rather than  have to  make video  or in-person                                                                    
appointments.  Reducing  access  to  audio-only  care  would                                                                    
create  unnecessary barriers  for  people in  need of  care.                                                                    
Providers had also  been able to provide  a Medicaid covered                                                                    
crisis  intervention  service  via telephone  for  over  ten                                                                    
years. If  providers could stabilize  a person  in-crisis at                                                                    
their most  vulnerable over the  phone, it  should certainly                                                                    
be possible to offer other  effective treatments in the same                                                                    
manner.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:17:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WINN  DAVIS, SENIOR  POLICY  ANALYST,  ALASKA NATIVE  HEALTH                                                                    
BOARD, ANCHORAGE (via teleconference),  supported HB 265. He                                                                    
spoke  of   the  benefits  of  expanded   behavioral  health                                                                    
services  in Alaska  with the  option of  telehealth access.                                                                    
Continued access  to telehealth would decrease  travel costs                                                                    
and  decrease the  frequency  of  no-shows at  appointments.                                                                    
Many Alaskans  who lived in  villages did not  have reliable                                                                    
access to the internet which  meant that access to telephone                                                                    
services  was   vital.  He  emphasized  the   importance  of                                                                    
continuing   to  allow   the  telehealth   services  to   be                                                                    
reimbursable   through  Medicaid.   There   would  also   be                                                                    
increased burn-out  rates for providers having  to travel to                                                                    
provide  care. He  suggested Alaskans  were at  risk without                                                                    
extending telehealth  services. He urged members  to support                                                                    
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:20:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:21:01 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:21:50 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Merrick  RE-OPENED   public   testimony  due   to                                                                    
technical difficulties.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:22:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EMILY   NENON,  AMERICAN   CANCER  SOCIETY,   CANCER  ACTION                                                                    
NETWORK, ANCHORAGE (via  teleconference), encouraged members                                                                    
to  make HB  265  a  reality. The  bill  would  make a  huge                                                                    
difference for cancer patients.  When the COVID-19 emergency                                                                    
declaration ended, she had to  start calling Alaska patients                                                                    
to  cancel  their  telehealth appointments.  Many  of  these                                                                    
patients  did  not  have  other  options  without  extensive                                                                    
travel. She shared  an example of a  rural patient receiving                                                                    
an  introductory  educational  appointment  about  radiation                                                                    
treatment  via telehealth.  The telehealth  appointment made                                                                    
it  possible for  the patient  to  be able  to consult  with                                                                    
their family  and determine that  they wanted to  go forward                                                                    
with  the  radiation  treatment.  By the  time  the  patient                                                                    
arrived in  Anchorage, all  of the  necessary prep  work had                                                                    
already  been completed.  She looked  forward to  increasing                                                                    
access to care.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:25:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:25:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment 1,  32-                                                                    
LS0754\D.4, (Foote, 4/9/22) (copy on file):                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 9, line 2, through page 10, line 7:                                                                                   
          Delete all material and insert:                                                                                       
     ""' Sec. 8. This Act takes effect immediately under AS                                                                     
     01.10.070(c)."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson  explained   the  amendment.   He                                                                    
indicated  the  bill sponsor  had  asked  him to  offer  the                                                                    
amendment  to  expedite  and  simplify  the  intent  of  the                                                                    
legislation.  There would  be a  gap  of a  year before  the                                                                    
effective date took  hold, and the amendment  would make the                                                                    
act take effect immediately. The  bill did not need to delay                                                                    
its effective date.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter WITHDREW the OBJECTION.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
There being NO further OBJECTION, Amendment 1 was ADOPTED.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:28:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Rasmussen MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 2, 32-                                                                        
LS0754\D.2 (FOOTE, 4/12/22) (copy on file):                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, following line 9:                                                                                                  
     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          "(b)   A physician  licensed in another  state may                                                                    
          provide  health care  services through  telehealth                                                                    
          to a patient  located in the state  as provided in                                                                    
          this subsection, subject  to the investigative and                                                                    
          enforcement  powers  of  the department  under  AS                                                                    
          08.01.087, and  subject to disciplinary  action by                                                                    
          the State  Medical Board  under AS  08.64.333. The                                                                    
          privilege  to   practice  under   this  subsection                                                                    
          extends  only to  ongoing  treatment or  follow-up                                                                    
          care  related to  health care  services previously                                                                    
          provided  by  the  physician to  the  patient  and                                                                    
          applies only if                                                                                                       
               (1)  the physician and the patient have an                                                                       
               established physician-patient relationship;                                                                      
               and                                                                                                              
               (2)  the physician has previously conducted                                                                      
               a physical examination of the patient in                                                                         
               person."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Reletter the following subsections accordingly.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "(d) and (e)"                                                                                                  
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          Insert "(A)"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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          Insert "or                                                                                                            
               (B)  a physician licensed in another state;"                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, following line 10:                                                                                                 
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        "* Sec. 2. AS 08.64 is amended by adding a new                                                                          
     section to read:                                                                                                           
          Sec. 08.64.333.  Disciplinary sanctions: physician                                                                    
          licensed  in  another  state. (a)  The  board  may                                                                    
          sanction  a physician  licensed  in another  state                                                                    
          who   provides   health  care   services   through                                                                    
          telehealth  under  AS  08.01.085(b) if  the  board                                                                    
         finds after a hearing that the physician                                                                               
          (1)  committed an  act that constitutes grounds to                                                                    
          sanction a physician licensed  in this state under                                                                    
          AS 08.64.326(a)(1) - (13);                                                                                            
          (2)    exceeded  the   scope  of  the  physician's                                                                    
          privilege  to  practice  in this  state  under  AS                                                                    
          08.01.085; or                                                                                                         
          (3)     prescribed,  dispensed,   or  administered                                                                    
          through  telehealth to  a patient  located in  the                                                                    
          state   a  controlled   substance  listed   in  AS                                                                    
          11.71.140 - 11.71.190.                                                                                                
     (b)    If  the  board   finds  grounds  to  sanction  a                                                                    
    physician under (a) of this section, the board may                                                                          
          (1)    permanently  prohibit  the  physician  from                                                                    
          practicing in the state;                                                                                              
          (2)   prohibit  the physician  from practicing  in                                                                    
          the state for a determinate period;                                                                                   
          (3)  censure the physician;                                                                                           
          (4)     issue  a   letter  of  reprimand   to  the                                                                    
          physician;                                                                                                            
          (5)   place the  physician on  probationary status                                                                    
          under (d) of this section;                                                                                            
          (6)     limit   or   impose   conditions  on   the                                                                    
          physician's privilege to practice in the state;                                                                       
          (7)    impose  a  civil  fine  of  not  more  than                                                                    
          $25,000;                                                                                                              
          (8)   issue a cease  and desist  order prohibiting                                                                    
          the physician from  providing health care services                                                                    
          through  telehealth  under   AS  08.01.085(b);  an                                                                    
          order  issued  under  this  paragraph  remains  in                                                                    
          effect  until   the  physician   submits  evidence                                                                    
          acceptable   to  the   board   showing  that   the                                                                    
          violation has been corrected;                                                                                         
          (9)   promptly notify  the licensing  authority in                                                                    
          each state  in which the physician  is licensed of                                                                    
         a sanction imposed under this subsection.                                                                              
     (c)   In a case  involving a physician alleged  to have                                                                    
     committed an  act under AS 08.64.326(a)(13),  the final                                                                    
     findings of fact, conclusions of  law, and order of the                                                                    
     authority  that  suspended  or  revoked  a  license  or                                                                    
     certificate  constitute a  prima  facie  case that  the                                                                    
     license  or certificate  was suspended  or revoked  and                                                                    
     the grounds  under which  the suspension  or revocation                                                                    
     was granted.                                                                                                               
     (d)   The  board  may place  a  physician on  probation                                                                    
     under  this  section until  the  board  finds that  the                                                                    
     deficiencies   that  required   the  imposition   of  a                                                                    
     sanction have  been remedied. The  board may  require a                                                                    
     physician on probation to                                                                                                  
     (A)     report  regularly  to  the   board  on  matters                                                                    
     involving  the  reason  for  which  the  physician  was                                                                    
     placed on probation;                                                                                                       
     (B)   limit the  physician's practice  in the  state to                                                                    
     those areas prescribed by the board;                                                                                       
     (C)   participate in  professional education  until the                                                                    
     board determines  that a  satisfactory degree  of skill                                                                    
     has been attained  in areas identified by  the board as                                                                    
     needing improvement.                                                                                                       
     (e)  The board may  summarily prohibit a physician from                                                                    
     practicing in  the state under  AS 08.01.085(b)  if the                                                                    
     board  finds  that  the  physician,  by  continuing  to                                                                    
     practice, poses a clear and  immediate danger to public                                                                    
     health   and  safety.   A  physician   prohibited  from                                                                    
     practicing  under  this  subsection is  entitled  to  a                                                                    
     hearing  conducted  by  the  office  of  administrative                                                                    
     hearings  (AS  44.64.010)  not later  than  seven  days                                                                    
     after the  effective date of the  order prohibiting the                                                                    
     physician from practicing. The board  may lift an order                                                                    
     prohibiting a  physician from  practicing if  the board                                                                    
     finds after  a hearing  that the  physician is  able to                                                                    
     practice   with  reasonable   skill  and   safety.  The                                                                    
     physician  may appeal  a decision  of  the board  under                                                                    
     this subsection to the superior court.                                                                                     
     (f)   The board may  recover from a physician  the cost                                                                    
     of  proceedings resulting  in a  sanction under  (b) of                                                                    
     this section,  including the costs of  investigation by                                                                    
     the board and department, and hearing costs.                                                                               
     (g)     The  board   may  prohibit  a   physician  from                                                                    
     practicing  in the  state upon  receipt of  a certified                                                                    
     copy of  evidence that a  license to  practice medicine                                                                    
     in another state  or territory of the  United States or                                                                    
     province or  territory of Canada has  been suspended or                                                                    
     revoked.  The prohibition  remains  in  effect until  a                                                                    
     hearing can be held by the board.                                                                                          
     (h)  The  board shall be consistent  in the application                                                                    
     of  disciplinary  sanctions.  A  significant  departure                                                                    
     from earlier  decisions of the board  involving similar                                                                    
     situations  must be  explained in  findings of  fact or                                                                    
     orders made by the board."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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          Insert "sec. 11(b)"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "Section 9"                                                                                                    
          Insert "Section 10"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "secs. 11 and 12"                                                                                              
          Insert "secs. 12 and 13"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen  explained  she was  offering  the                                                                    
amendment at the request of  the bill sponsor. Many Alaskans                                                                    
sought treatment  for cancer care out-of-state  that was not                                                                    
available  within  the  state.  The  amendment  would  allow                                                                    
patients to  avoid unnecessary  travel expenses  while still                                                                    
getting  the  care they  need.  Alaska  had not  joined  any                                                                    
inter-state  healthcare compacts  and  the  amendment was  a                                                                    
significant step forward  in modernizing Alaska's healthcare                                                                    
access via telehealth.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:29:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  asked if an out-of-state  provider was                                                                    
required to have an Alaska license.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  IVY  SPOHNHOLZ,  SPONSOR, replied  that  the                                                                    
very  narrow  exclusion  that was  being  advanced  was  for                                                                    
follow-up  care  for  medical   providers  who  had  already                                                                    
delivered   in-person  care.   In  the   particular  example                                                                    
provided by  Representative Rasmussen,  it was  not required                                                                    
that the provider be licensed  in Alaska. The language was a                                                                    
result of  a compromise  to ensure  that Alaskans  could get                                                                    
access  to specialty  care without  unnecessary travel,  but                                                                    
also without  reducing Alaska's state sovereignty.  It would                                                                    
not  reduce Alaska's  ability to  enforce sanctions  against                                                                    
potential bad actors.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:32:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter  asked  how an  accused  physician                                                                    
would be afforded due process.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Spohnholz deferred to Ms. Chambers.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:32:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARA CHAMBERS, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION OF CORPORATIONS, BUSINESS                                                                    
AND   PROFESSIONAL   LICENSING,  DEPARTMENT   OF   COMMERCE,                                                                    
COMMUNITY  AND  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
explained  the amendment  allowed the  board the  ability to                                                                    
work  with  the  Division   of  Corporations,  Business  and                                                                    
Professional   Licensing    to   investigate    and   gather                                                                    
information regarding a complaint  filed against a physician                                                                    
that  did not  have  an Alaska  license.  The process  would                                                                    
ultimately culminate in  a decision by the  Medical Board to                                                                    
determine whether  the physician  should be relieved  of the                                                                    
ability to  practice under the proposed  exemption. It would                                                                    
be the same process that was currently in place.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:34:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter asked  what the  process would  be                                                                    
for a doctor  that was practicing from  out-of-state. He did                                                                    
not see  how the doctor would  be allowed a rebuttal  to the                                                                    
accusations.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Chambers replied  that there  was a  process under  the                                                                    
Administrative  Procedures Act  that was  echoed on  page 3,                                                                    
line 22  of the  amendment. A physician  had the  ability to                                                                    
have a hearing for a short  period of time up to seven days.                                                                    
It  was already  in statute  and was  not superseding  other                                                                    
areas of  statute. It reinforced the  physician's ability to                                                                    
have a  hearing if the  board reached a decision  that might                                                                    
relieve them  of their  ability to  practice in  Alaska. The                                                                    
act  also  included  an  appeals   process  that  allowed  a                                                                    
physician the chance to challenge  the decision. There was a                                                                    
robust process in place with which the amendment aligned.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter  asked   whether  the  process  of                                                                    
notifying  the licensing  authority of  each involved  state                                                                    
occurred before or after the appeals process had completed.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Chambers  replied  that  once   there  was  a  sanction                                                                    
proposed  by the  board,  the board  was  bound by  existing                                                                    
statute  and federal  requirements to  make sure  that other                                                                    
states  were notified.  It was  consistent with  the current                                                                    
processes.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:37:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Spohnholz thought  that the  amendment would                                                                    
create a  process that exactly mirrored  the process already                                                                    
used  for  license  holders  in  Alaska.  It  was  a  narrow                                                                    
exception that  would only apply  to providers who  were not                                                                    
licensed in Alaska and were providing follow-up care.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Rasmussen asked for members' support.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick WITHDREW the OBJECTION.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
There being NO further OBJECTION, Amendment 2 was ADOPTED.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:38:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  MOVED to ADOPT Amendment  3, 32-LS0754\D.3                                                                    
(Foote, 04/12/22) (copy on file):                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 11, following "AS 08.64.364":                                                                                 
          Insert "and any federal law governing the                                                                             
          prescription, dispensing, or administering of a                                                                       
          controlled substance"                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 15, following "AS 08.68.710":                                                                                 
          Insert "and any federal law governing the                                                                             
          prescription, dispensing, or administering of a                                                                       
          controlled substance                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 17:                                                                                                           
          Delete "or in another state"                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, following line 20:                                                                                                 
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     "* Sec. 3. AS 08.68.l0O(a) is amended to read:                                                                             
          (a) The board shall                                                                                                   
               (1) adopt regulations necessary to implement                                                                     
          this chapter, including regulations                                                                                   
                    (A)  pertaining to practice as an                                                                           
              advanced  practice registered nurse, including                                                                    
              requirements    for   an   advanced   practice                                                                    
              registered  nurse to  practice as  a certified                                                                    
              registered    nurse   anesthetist,   certified                                                                    
              clinical  nurse  specialist,  certified  nurse                                                                    
              practitioner,   or  certified  nurse  midwife;                                                                    
              regulations    for   an    advanced   practice                                                                    
              registered  nurse  who holds  a valid  federal                                                                    
              Drug  Enforcement Administration  registration                                                                    
              number   must   address   training   in   pain                                                                    
              management and opioid use and addiction;                                                                          
                    (B) necessary to implement AS 08.68.331                                                                     
              - 08.68.336  relating to certified nurse aides                                                                    
              in  order to  protect the health,  safety, and                                                                    
              welfare of clients served by nurse aides;                                                                         
                     (C) pertaining to retired nurse status;                                                                    
               [AND]                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                    (D) establishing criteria for approval                                                                      
              of  practical  nurse  education programs  that                                                                    
              are  not  accredited  by  a  national  nursing                                                                    
              accrediting body; and                                                                                           
                    (E) establishing      guidelines     for                                                                  
              rendering  a  diagnosis, providing  treatment,                                                                  
              or  prescribing, dispensing,  or administering                                                                  
              a  prescription   drug  to  a  person  without                                                                  
              conducting  a  physical  examination under  AS                                                                  
              08.68.710;   the  guidelines  must  include  a                                                                  
              nationally   recognized   model   policy   for                                                                  
              standards  of care  of a patient  who is  at a                                                                  
              different  location than the advanced practice                                                                  
              registered nurse;                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
               (2) approve curricula and adopt standards                                                                        
          for basic education  programs that prepare persons                                                                    
          for licensing under AS 08.68.190;                                                                                     
               (3) provide for surveys of the basic nursing                                                                     
          education programs  in the state  at the  times it                                                                    
          considers necessary;                                                                                                  
               (4) approve education programs that meet                                                                         
          the  requirements  of  this  chapter  and  of  the                                                                    
          board, and  deny, revoke,  or suspend  approval of                                                                    
          education  programs   for  failure  to   meet  the                                                                    
          requirements;                                                                                                         
               (5) examine, license, and renew the licenses                                                                     
          of qualified applicants;                                                                                              
               (6) prescribe requirements for competence                                                                        
          before  a  former  registered,  advanced  practice                                                                    
          registered,  or   licensed  practical   nurse  may                                                                    
          resume   the  practice   of  nursing   under  this                                                                    
          chapter;                                                                                                              
               (7) define by regulation the qualifications                                                                      
          and  duties  of  the executive  administrator  and                                                                    
          delegate authority to  the executive administrator                                                                    
          that is necessary to conduct board business;                                                                          
                (8) develop reasonable and uniform standards                                                                    
          for nursing practice;                                                                                                 
                (9) publish advisory opinions regarding                                                                         
          whether  nursing practice  procedures or  policies                                                                    
          comply  with   acceptable  standards   of  nursing                                                                    
          practice as defined under this chapter;                                                                               
                (10) require applicants under this chapter                                                                      
          to submit  fingerprints and  the fees  required by                                                                    
          the   Department  of   Public   Safety  under   AS                                                                    
          12.62.160 for  criminal justice information  and a                                                                    
          national  criminal   history  record   check;  the                                                                    
          department shall submit  the fingerprints and fees                                                                    
          to the  Department of Public  Safety for  a report                                                                    
          of  criminal justice  information  under AS  12.62                                                                    
          and  a  national  criminal  history  record  check                                                                    
          under AS 12.62.400;                                                                                                   
                (11) require that a licensed advanced                                                                           
          practice registered  nurse who has a  federal Drug                                                                    
          Enforcement  Administration   registration  number                                                                    
          register    with    the    controlled    substance                                                                    
          prescription database under AS l 7.30.200(n)."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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Representative Carpenter OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz explained the  amendment would clean up the                                                                    
controlled  substance language  per  the recommendations  of                                                                    
the  sponsor  and  of  Ms.  Chambers,  who  was  online  for                                                                    
additional  questions. It  ensured  that  the bill  complied                                                                    
with  federal law  and ensured  regulatory  equity with  the                                                                    
Medical Board  and the Board of  Nursing on tele-prescribing                                                                    
controlled substances.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:39:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter asked for  an example of cleaned up                                                                    
language.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Chambers  asked  for  clarification  of  Representative                                                                    
Carpenter's question.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter restated his question.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Chambers responded  that she  had be  working with  the                                                                    
sponsor to  clean up  language that  ensured that  the state                                                                    
was aligning  with federal  law. A  previous version  of the                                                                    
bill  might have  gone too  far in  superseding the  federal                                                                    
law. On page 3, line 20  of the amendment, there was an edit                                                                    
to  give the  Board  of Nursing  additional authority  which                                                                    
would allow  and require the  board to  establish guidelines                                                                    
for the prescribing of drugs.  The guidelines were currently                                                                    
unclear in statute and the amendment would add clarity.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:41:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Spohnholz added  that the  amendment was  of                                                                    
significant importance because  it clarified that controlled                                                                    
substances in Alaska could only  be prescribed in compliance                                                                    
with  the state's  drug enforcement  statute.  It would  not                                                                    
allow prescription of an opioid  without an in-person visit.                                                                    
Inadvertently, she  had excluded  the Board of  Nursing from                                                                    
the ability  to adopt prescribing regulations  in an earlier                                                                    
draft of  the bill.  The amendment would  give the  Board of                                                                    
Nursing the necessary authority.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:42:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Carpenter   asked    who   identified   the                                                                    
oversight.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Spohnholz responded, "Director Chambers."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter suggested  that the  amendment was                                                                    
significant.  It  was a  policy  decision  that he  did  not                                                                    
understand.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:43:25 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:44:21 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz provided  wrap-up  comments. He  indicated                                                                    
that Amendment  3 would  ensure that  the bill  aligned with                                                                    
federal law.  It fixed language  which could  be interpreted                                                                    
to open out-of-state  tele-prescribing authority. It deleted                                                                    
the  phrase "In  another  state" which  clarified that  only                                                                    
providers   licensed   in    Alaska   could   tele-prescribe                                                                    
controlled substances.  There was a  federal law for  a Drug                                                                    
Enforcement Administration (DEA)  registered practitioner to                                                                    
conduct an in-person examination  in order to tele-prescribe                                                                    
controlled substances, which was  waived during the COVID-19                                                                    
pandemic. However, there was federal  interest to change the                                                                    
in-person  requirement,  and  if  it  was  changed,  it  was                                                                    
important to  ensure the  bill aligned  with any  changes in                                                                    
federal law while limiting state barriers to telehealth.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter WITHDREW the OBJECTION.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
There being NO further OBJECTION, Amendment 3 was ADOPTED.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  MOVED  to  report  CSHB  265(FIN)  out  of                                                                    
committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 265(FIN)  was REPORTED  out of  committee with  six "do                                                                    
pass"   recommendations   and    two   "no   recommendation"                                                                    
recommendations  and  with  one  new  zero  fiscal  note  by                                                                    
Department  of Health,  one new  fiscal impact  note by  the                                                                    
Department of Commerce,  Community and Economic Development,                                                                    
and  two  new  fiscal  impact notes  by  the  Department  of                                                                    
Health.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:48:31 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:49:15 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick announced the agenda for the following                                                                         
meeting at 1:30 p.m. on Friday.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:49:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 4:49 p.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 409 Sectional Analysis 3.31.22.pdf HFIN 4/14/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 409
HB 409 Sponsor Statement 3.23.22.pdf HFIN 4/14/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 409
HB 409 Royalty_Board_resolution_Petro_Star_clean 031622.pdf HFIN 4/14/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 409
HB 409 Final BIF Petro Star signed 031822.pdf HFIN 4/14/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 409
HB 409 Royalty_Board_report_Petro_Star_clean 031522.pdf HFIN 4/14/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 409
HB 410 Final BIF Marathon signed 031822.pdf HFIN 4/14/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 410
HB 410 Royalty_Board_report_Marathon_clean 031522.pdf HFIN 4/14/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 410
HB 410 Royalty_Board_resolution_Marathon 031622_clean.pdf HFIN 4/14/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 410
HB 410 Sectional Analysis 3.31.22.pdf HFIN 4/14/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 410
HB 410 Sponsor Statement 3.23.22.pdf HFIN 4/14/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 410
HB 265 Amendments 1 - 3 041322.pdf HFIN 4/14/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 265
SB 239 and SB 240 RIK Presentation HFIN 4.13.22.pdf HFIN 4/14/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 239
SB 240
HB 265 Supporting Document - New HFIN Testimony Received as of 04.13.22.pdf HFIN 4/14/2022 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 5/12/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 265
SB 239 AOGA Comments HB409 4.8.22.pdf HFIN 4/14/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 409
SB 239
SB 240 AOGA Comments HB410 4.8.22.pdf HFIN 4/14/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 410
SB 240
HB 265 Public Testimony Rec'd by 041422.pdf HFIN 4/14/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 265
HB 265 NORD Testimony 041422.pdf HFIN 4/14/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 265